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ich hatte renault auf ner random ass.. evtl mit random spades clubs kicker,.. ace und king lagen von clubs ja schon aufm board,.. deswegen war der call glaub ich auf jeden fall grenzwertig, aber trotzdem +EV glaub ich :)
 
Frage : Was bedeutet EV(Call):oops:
Diese Woche werd ich bei PS neu eincashen.Bin dann auch bereit für ne Runde Heads Up
 
table selecection = +EV :D :cool:

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG DianaAA ($13.65)
UTG+1 Hero ($11.70)
MP1 JayRedAA ($4.30)
MP2 LvnOnAPrayr ($8.90)
CO Brizzle00 ($3.80)
BTN love_and_maried ($6.25)
SB Neco86 ($4.75)
BB PatinHouston ($8.25)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is UTG+1 [3d] [3c]
1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, JayRedAA calls $0.10, 1 fold, Brizzle00 calls $0.10, love_and_maried calls $0.10, Neco86 calls $0.05, PatinHouston checks

Flop: [3h] [5d] [9d] ($0.60, 6 players)
Neco86 checks, PatinHouston bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, JayRedAA goes all-in $4.20, 2 folds, Neco86 folds, PatinHouston calls $4.10, Hero raises to $7.90, PatinHouston calls $3.70

Turn: [Qc] ($20.60, 3 players)
PatinHouston checks, Hero bets $0.10, PatinHouston calls $0.10

River: [2c] ($20.80, 3 players)
PatinHouston bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Final Pot: $21
PatinHouston shows: [5h] [Ad]
Hero shows: [3d] [3c]
JayRedAA shows: [Qd] [Kd]

Hero wins $19 ( won +$10.80 )
Brizzle00 lost -$0.10
love_and_maried lost -$0.10
Neco86 lost -$0.10
PatinHouston lost -$8.20
JayRedAA lost -$4.30
 
ahja die behinderten kleinen bets am schluss kommen daher weil ichs dank massivem lag + 4 tables :)rolleyes:) es nich geschafft hab den "max" button zu drücken.. aber warn eh nur paar cent left
 
EV heisst nichts anderes als "Expected Value".. +EV heißt also folglich, dass du mit dem move den du gemacht hast einen positiven erwartungswert an kohle hast. was nicht bedeutet dass du die hand gewinnen musst, sondern wenn du die siuation 1000 mal speilst kohle damit machst. was also zählt wenn man von "+EV" spricht ist nicht das jetzt, sondern der lange zeitraum "long term", "long run"... d.h. du kannst 100 $ in einer hand verloren haben, und sie war trotzdem +EV.
z.b. du hast QJo, es liegt TKX, du hast also nen open ender.. du hast also 8 sogennante "outs".. also 8 karten im deck die dir ne straight bringen. sind 100 $ im pot, und dein gegener macht ne bet von 10 $, und du callst, ist das +EV.. weil du verhältnismäßig öfter gewinnst (das mit den odds und outs will ich jetzt nicht erklären.. da gibts genügend bücher, und seiten die ihr cash damit machen). auf jeden fall, auch wenn du diesmal die straight nicht machst, und dadurch mehr geld verlierst ist der call +EV, weil du im long term oft genug gewinnst, damit sich es bezahlt macht die 10 $ zu bezahlen.
-EV is halt genau das gegenteil. du hast die selbe hand, das selbe board, der selbe pott, nur dein gegner setzt 120 $ statt 10 $. wenn du da callst, machst du n fehler. auch wenn du in dem moment gewinnst, ist es long term -EV (und du machst verlust).

aber das hat nicht nur mit odds und outs zu tun.. das ist natürlich das offensichtlichste.. wenn du akkurate reads auf das game deines villians hast, o.ä. kann sein dass eine offensichtliche +EV aktion zur -EV aktion wird und umgekehrt.

naja ich hoff ich habs halbwegs verständlich erklärt.. is nich ganz einfach. habs jetzt einfach neben 4 tableing runtergerattert o_O
 
flipamentz?

PokerStars Game #21794810969: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/11/05 21:27:58 ET
Table 'Sargas' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: john1226 ($239.60 in chips)
Seat 2: brwd > pros ($96 in chips)
Seat 3: Artielpc ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: Raddow ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: sidusting ($58.50 in chips)
Seat 6: xrocket16x ($125.30 in chips)
Seat 7: kev122472 ($69 in chips)
Seat 8: vjpconst1 ($118.85 in chips)
Seat 9: twoluckydogs ($102.05 in chips)
Raddow: posts small blind $0.50
sidusting: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Raddow [Jd Jc]
xrocket16x: raises $3 to $4
kev122472: folds
vjpconst1: folds
twoluckydogs: folds
john1226: folds
brwd > pros: calls $4
Artielpc: folds
Raddow: raises $16 to $20
sidusting: folds
xrocket16x: raises $30 to $50
brwd > pros said, "ty rocket for saving me 20 bucks lol"
brwd > pros: folds
Raddow: raises $50 to $100 and is all-in
xrocket16x: calls $50
*** FLOP *** [5h 9h Th]
*** TURN *** [5h 9h Th] [6d]
brwd > pros said, "omgggggggg"
*** RIVER *** [5h 9h Th 6d] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Raddow: shows [Jd Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
xrocket16x: mucks hand
Raddow collected $202 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $205 | Rake $3
Board [5h 9h Th 6d 2h]
Seat 1: john1226 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: brwd > pros folded before Flop
Seat 3: Artielpc (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Raddow (small blind) showed [Jd Jc] and won ($202) with a pair of Jacks
Seat 5: sidusting (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: xrocket16x mucked [Ac Kd]
Seat 7: kev122472 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: vjpconst1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: twoluckydogs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($13.95)
UTG+1 Always_Raise_U ($1.85)
MP1 prendlypnoy ($8.20)
MP2 codex118 ($4.45)
MP3 FA_SaFraN ($20.50)
CO Luchs0r ($3.60)
BTN PEDOSHOCK ($4.10)
SB Mauro_D ($12.70)
BB dumpy55 ($10.65)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is UTG [Qd] [Qs]
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, prendlypnoy raises to $1, 6 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: [8h] [4c] [2h] ($2.15, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.40, prendlypnoy calls $1.40

Turn: [9d] ($4.95, 2 players)
Hero bets $3, prendlypnoy goes all-in $5.80, Hero calls $2.80

River: [Ah] ($16.55, 2 players)
Hero says "LOL"

Final Pot: $16.55
Hero shows: [Qd] [Qs]
prendlypnoy shows: [Ks] [As]

prendlypnoy wins $14.90 ( won +$6.70 )
Hero lost -$8.20
 
genau eine hand danach, ich flame im chat, und spiel tilt damit trash callt

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Always_Raise_U ($1.85)
UTG+1 prendlypnoy ($14.90)
MP1 codex118 ($4.45)
MP2 FA_SaFraN ($20.50)
MP3 Luchs0r ($3.60)
CO PEDOSHOCK ($4.10)
BTN Mauro_D ($12.65)
SB dumpy55 ($10.55)
BB Hero ($5.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is BB [Kh] [Kc]
Hero says "so unreal", prendlypnoy says "nyak", dumpy55 says "aww lucky", Mauro_D says "rofl", Luchs0r says "omg was für ein donkey", dumpy55 says "gago", 1 fold, prendlypnoy says "gago si robin", 3 folds, Luchs0r raises to $0.30, dumpy55 says "ur worse than luchsor", prendlypnoy says "ang kulit eh", 1 fold, Hero says "@@%@ you bastard", Mauro_D calls $0.30, dumpy55 says "lol", 1 fold, Hero goes all-in $5.75, Luchs0r calls $3.30, Mauro_D folds, FA_SaFraN says "why so serious"

Flop: [Jh] [Th] [2h] ($9.70, 2 players)

Turn: [Qc] ($9.70, 2 players)

River: [2d] ($9.70, 2 players)
Hero says "lol"

Final Pot: $7.55
Luchs0r shows: [5h] [3h]
Hero shows: [Kh] [Kc]

Luchs0r wins $6.80 ( won +$3.20 )
Hero wins $2.15 ( lost -$3.60 )
Mauro_D lost -$0.30
 
wie man an unsere Händen sieht lieben die esel ihr Ace Hi

hier wird er wieder mit AK gestacked... er rebuyt wieder.. hope i can stack him next again

PokerStars Game #21795055399: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2008/11/05 21:38:23 ET
Table 'Sargas' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: john1226 ($247.65 in chips)
Seat 2: brwd > pros ($97.15 in chips)
Seat 3: Artielpc ($103.55 in chips)
Seat 4: Raddow ($204.85 in chips)
Seat 5: sidusting ($108.50 in chips)
Seat 6: xrocket16x ($100 in chips)
Seat 7: kev122472 ($18.05 in chips)
Seat 8: vjpconst1 ($118.85 in chips)
Seat 9: twoluckydogs ($100 in chips)
xrocket16x: posts small blind $0.50
kev122472: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Raddow [Qd Ah]
vjpconst1: folds
twoluckydogs: folds
john1226: folds
brwd > pros: folds
Artielpc: raises $3 to $4
Raddow: calls $4
sidusting: folds
xrocket16x: raises $12 to $16
kev122472: folds
Artielpc: raises $34 to $50
Raddow: folds
xrocket16x: raises $50 to $100 and is all-in
Artielpc: calls $50
*** FLOP *** [3c Qh 8h]
*** TURN *** [3c Qh 8h] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [3c Qh 8h 4d] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
xrocket16x: shows [Kc Ac] (high card Ace)
Artielpc: shows [Kd Ks] (a pair of Kings)
Artielpc collected $202 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $205 | Rake $3
Board [3c Qh 8h 4d 9d]
Seat 1: john1226 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: brwd > pros folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Artielpc showed [Kd Ks] and won ($202) with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: Raddow folded before Flop
Seat 5: sidusting (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: xrocket16x (small blind) showed [Kc Ac] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 7: kev122472 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: vjpconst1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: twoluckydogs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
und jetzt grad nochmal mit AT gegen A5 verloren am selben table

doomswitch ftw baby...
 
verwende doch bitte www.weaktight.com ... is gratis und man kann die hände 10 mal besser lesen .. wär cool
oder dieses eine tool vom leztenb mal
btw seit wann grindest du NL100?
 
normalerweise leggo aber der spinnt zur zeit sorry. aber werds tun


4tbl NL100 oder 16tbl NL25 je nach mood...
 
AJ vs QQ, suck and resuck



$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($27.50)
UTG+1 niebel66 ($27.15)
MP OrganicFunk ($23.85)
CO RantanplanBK ($25.00)
BTN MadInPoker ($5.00)
SB ak624 ($21.95)
BB JJayiv ($17.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 7 players) Hero is UTG [Qs] [Qh]
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 3 folds, ak624 raises to $2.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.75, ak624 goes all-in $21.95, Hero calls $14.20

Flop: [As] [7d] [5c] ($44.15, 2 players)

Turn: [Kd] ($44.15, 2 players)

River: [Qd] ($44.15, 2 players)

Final Pot: $44.15
ak624 shows: [Js] [Ac]
Hero shows: [Qs] [Qh]

Hero wins $41.95 ( won +$20.00 )
ak624 lost -$21.95





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Set vs. ToppairTopkicker... yüah.. diesmal ich mit set

$0.05/$0.1 Deep No Limit Holdem
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG hurricaneskizz ($12.70)
UTG+1 Er zzr ($11.00)
MP BASRAN ($9.05)
CO Faculty ($22.75)
BTN Test81 ($9.85)
SB BOB THE BIULDER ($8.85)
BB Hero ($20.15)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 7 players) Hero is BB [Jh] [Js]
5 folds, BOB THE BIULDER calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.30, BOB THE BIULDER calls $0.20

Flop: [4h] [Ks] [Jd] ($0.60, 2 players)
BOB THE BIULDER checks, Hero checks

Turn: [9s] ($0.60, 2 players)
BOB THE BIULDER bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1, BOB THE BIULDER raises to $2, Hero goes all-in $19.85, BOB THE BIULDER calls $6.55

River: [Th] ($29.00, 2 players)

Final Pot: $17.70
BOB THE BIULDER shows: [Kd] [Ac]
Hero shows: [Jh] [Js]

Hero wins $27.25 ( won +$7.10 )
BOB THE BIULDER lost -$8.85



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LOL: Full House vs.???

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ghostly_89 ($8.80)
UTG+1 VladislavaV ($1.85)
MP1 vengador18 ($3.90)
MP2 rylex24 ($10.05)
MP3 VEEBEE86 ($7.50)
CO vinigarey ($2.00)
BTN mystikal4 ($15.75)
SB Hero ($9.80)
BB pokermike21 ($12.70)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is SB [6c] [As]
3 folds, rylex24 raises to $0.20, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold

Flop: [Ah] [2s] [6h] ($0.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, rylex24 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: [Ad] ($1.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, rylex24 raises to $3, Hero goes all-in $9.10, rylex24 calls $6.10

River: [Js] ($19.70, 2 players)

Final Pot: $19.70
rylex24 shows: [Qd] [Ks]
Hero shows: [6c] [As]

Hero wins $17.75 ( won +$7.95 )
rylex24 lost -$9.80


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Straight Flush

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG vinigarey ($2.15)
UTG+1 mystikal4 ($15.75)
MP1 Hero ($17.75)
MP2 pokermike21 ($12.55)
MP3 ghostly_89 ($8.50)
CO VladislavaV ($1.65)
BTN vengador18 ($3.95)
SB enfolac ($1.90)
BB VEEBEE86 ($7.65)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is MP1 [Qd] [As]
vinigarey raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 6 folds, vinigarey calls $0.60

Flop: [Td] [Jd] [8d] ($2.15, 2 players)
vinigarey checks, Hero bets $0.90, vinigarey goes all-in $1.15, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: [9d] ($4.45, 2 players)

River: [Tc] ($4.45, 2 players)

Final Pot: $4.45
vinigarey shows: [Kd] [Qh]
Hero shows: [Qd] [As]

Hero wins $4.05 ( won +$1.90 )
vinigarey lost -$2.15
 
heute wieder genaues gegenteil ....zunächst mal quasi jeden flop aus prinzip wohl verpasst. AK, toppair A gecatcht.. all in gegen A6.. river catcht natürlich ne 6. 1.5 stacks
oder gerade eben mit Q5 twopair gecatcht. donk shovet 3 fache potsize all in.. hab ne playernote dass er das superlose mit semitrash macht. ich snapcall. er toppair K.. und catcht am river noch sein zweites pair. wieder 1.5 stacks weg.
grad während ich beitrage tippe... ich bette alle straights mit JJ set.. 3e suit kommt an .. er 7 high flush. nice hand sir
resultat: 5 stacks down in geschätzten 30 min. top
 
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